where did our forefathers from the mayflower get their legal immigration visas?
Illegal immigration?
My foregathers weren't on the mayflower. In all likihood, yours weren't either. The survival rates of early colonies were apallingly low.
In any case, the early English colonists reached an accomodation with the dominant political power in the region, the Iroquois Confederation, known as the Covenant Chain that lasted, nearly, to the time of the American Revolution.
Reply:Columbus discovered America in 1492
The Constitution of the United States was proposed September 17, 1787, and officially began operating (as a government) March 4, 1789.
The Constitution of the US was ratified by 9 states. New Hampshire was the ninth State to ratify. The date of its action was June 21, 1788. Virginia and New York ratified the Constitution a few days later, and before the date fixed for commencing the operations of the government. For the first time, there was such a thing as CITIZENSHIP of the United States. That citizenship did not extend to North Carolina until January 28, 1790, or to Rhode Island until June 1, 1790, for those States delayed their ratification until after the operations of the government had begun.
Reply:Visa wasn't even a word then....... LOL!!!!!!! Get a clue scrooge....
Reply:At the time of the pilgrims there were NO Immigration laws in place. Therefore no visa'a were required. there also was no country established so they were considered more of Pioneers than immagrants.
This differs very much from todays immagrants as the country and laws are established. Therefore immagrants today without proper process are considered ILLEGAL and should return to where they came. Proper documented immagrants are welcome to stay and become a vivrant part of this great nation.
Hope that answers your question.
Reply:You need to ask them that question. Things have changed a very great deal, haven't they.
Today, you get their immigration papers from the U.S. Government. I would point out that there are a number of countries where they need people very badly and you may want to immigration there yourself. Libya, for example, would more than welcome you if you would go there.
Reply:they just made them up, back then it was okay.
Reply:Well I heard they tried to get visas but there was no Central Government to apply to so they assumed that it was OK.
You know, they just figured if anyone cared they would at least make laws or post a notice or something.
Reply:There were no laws at the time, actually they received permission from the King of England, who had laid claim to New England.
As for my grandparents, they had legal entry visas before they even got on the boat to come over.
Reply:It's a dog eat dog world. Yes there was no **** like computers and such. But Everyone knew and understood what could and would happen to the week. So there was no need to have immigration visas for our forefathers. Indians also understood what would happen if they did not protect their way of life.. So even though they fought as best as possible, all through out that time, they understood what would happen if they lost against other invaders.(also know as the white man).
Our forefathers did not need immigration visas because we were the stronger of the ??? forces, nations, peoples??? and were able to get control of this land, that at the time was thought to be new land so to speak..and the Indian was unable to hold onto it.
Reply:They bought forged documents from Jose's cousin.
Reply:Didn't you hear? God promised them that land. So immigration was ok. And Biblical style genocide was practically mandatory.
Reply:Did the Native Indians get theirs also?
Reply:People without valid arguments for illegal immigration always want to dwell in the past. The problems we have are in the present and they must be dealt with in the present.
Reply:There were no laws back then to warrant Visas. They were fleeing persecution and sought freedom. So, technically would they not have been refugees anyway?
Reply:I don't think they existed back then.
Lawless and unexplored at the time, I think.
Actually, I think immigration has been taking place since before recorded history. It would seem most likely.
I'm sure the natives at the time weren't the first to come to the land now known as The United States.
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