Monday, January 30, 2012

Weren't the Americans the first ILLEGAL Aliens?

The Mayflower Pilgrims and their Manifest Destiny took over the West moving the borders of Mexico just because they could. Whey then do they zero in on the Mexican border more than Canada? Canada is more likely to let the Ahmeds of the world in to do the Dirty Work of 9/11.

Weren't the Americans the first ILLEGAL Aliens?
No they werent the records indicate that people migrated since there were people. No country has an "indigenous" population, just earlier and later migrations. The trick is for the indigenous population to preserve itself from the migrants. The great wall of china is an example of this. The Huns %26amp; Rome etc.
Reply:You have to be the only ones with any brains in this forum,thumbs up to you all ! Report It
Reply:wow, no. You really need to do some studying. First of all, there were no laws back them prohibiting coming, so there can no be "illegals" Also, the Mexicans/Spaniards also stole land from the native americans. If that is the best argument you can make, you really should do your research first.
Reply:Immigration law did not come into being until the 1920's so legally I say no. BUT since that time MANY of our forefathers WERE ILLEGAL immigrants. The term WOP (with out paper was cruely applied to many people EVEN Germans!!!
Reply:No. There were no laws regarding immigration then. Even if there were, the pilgrims were not the first to visit this continent and populate it.
Reply:Old question. Happended a long time ago. Canadians are not invading this country.

And for the hundreth time, we bought Mexico for 1500.00. We also bought Louisiana from the French, and Alaska from the Russians. Do you think we're going to give em back?

Before you make comments like this, study your history.
Reply:Actually, there have been studies that say that other countries came into the mainland before the Mayflower arrived. The vikings and the Chinese were said to have crossed over from the so-called "land bridge" that allegedly existed between the continents of North America and Europe. That's apparently why so many Native Americans look Asian.
Reply:OK, if you want to let illegal aliens duke it out with the illegals from Mexico, then who do you think will win? I think we've already settled that issue.
Reply:We bought mexico from your conquerors, You lost a war, and with it, any claim to the territory Why not sue Spain or Portugal for your stolen land? It is no more ridiculous to demand it from them than it is to demand it from the United States?



and as far as Canada goes they are not flooding in illegally and at least try to protect the border too also i am sure the terrorist's know now where they went wrong and could have had millions in lol nice try
Reply:This is a world wide misunderstanding. There were no defined borders then.
Reply:No a**hole! Have you ever heard of Christopher Columbus, who was exploring on behalf of the king and queen of SPAIN?!
Reply:The only true Americans are the Native American Indians. The rest of us are immigrants. No matter how bad our laws are What's Legal is Legal and what's illegal is illegal. Why can't people get this. Do things the legal way. Period!!
Reply:It's only illegal if there is a law that says it is.



Before a certain time ALL immigrants were allowed in. Then the rules changed. Only a certain amount of people for another country could come in each year legally as immigrants.



Are you talking about illegal aliens or terrorists? Terrorists could come in on either border. But the majority of those who are non terrorists but still illegal aliens do come in over the southern border.



It's not a racist thing. Race has nothing to do with it. It's a matter of volume. If that many people from any country were coming in illegally the problem would still be the same.
Reply:Listen, we conquered this land, so it's ours. Mexicans let in criminals and refuse to assimilate into our culture, the only immigrants in history to do this.
Reply:No, there was no established government or law, so there were no illegals.
Reply:Hell yeah. If you think about it, Pilgrims were the first illegal aliens. The native americans were victim and now there are so few left it's sickening. They kidnapped africans from their homes and forced them into bondage, and burned their own women over superstition. They also replicated the Nazi KZ Camps during WWII, killed, imprisoned, and ruined the lives of "communist sympathizers" just as they did in the days of the Salem Witch Trials, and STOLE countries that belonged to Mexico and others. I try not to judge, but how many african americans were slaves during "Independence Day"? How many nisei and issei were behind barbed wire during the liberations of Auschwitz and Bergen-Belsen? And how many blacks were lynched while we ran wild, doing whatever the hell we were doing in 'Nam? And now we want to complain about Mexicans looking for a better life, wanting freedom, while we are slaughtering innocent Iraqi citizens and our own people in a meaningless war, teetering on World War 3 and letting the REAL terrorist get away during this bullsh*t "War on Terror".
Reply:There was no sovereign nation, therefore no laws, therefore no "illegal aliens". But apparently history is not your forte. And in case you forgot, nations are created by wars, and their borders change depending on the outcome of those wars. Or did you think that Mexico "just happened"?



And to anyone that keeps suggesting that the only true Americans were the Indians, need I remind you of the Berign Straits?
Reply:The answer is NO. The immigration laws did not exist then.
Reply:yes, sort of...but the Israelis were the first world wide illegal immigrants, wherever they went they overstayed, now they are ilegally in Palestinian land...
Reply:yes they were but that was different from whats going on now
Reply:America was NOT a country back then, and there WERE no LAWS in place, so Americans can NOT be considered ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!! NOW,we are a sovereign country,WITH laws.

MEXICANS are the ILLEGAL INVADERS that are SNEAKING across our borders, so, THAT is WHY we are focusing on mexicans!!!ANd we DO need to SEAL ALL borders!!!!!! BUT, we do NOT have MILLIONS of CANADIANS sneaking into the country,or we'd feel the SAME WAY!!!
Reply:Yes they were. The lesson from our past is the Mexican immigrants today should do as our forefathers did. Don't come here and work in our low wage not wanted by anyone jobs, take over The U.S. in the name of Mexico. FYI: The Nazis passed many laws that made many terrible acts legal. Remember, just because something is legal does not in of itself make it just, moral or right.

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