Do you know that the Pilgrims and the Puritans wanted to make the USA a Christian Nation?

Pilgrims and Puritans had similar dreams. Both wanted to see their country blessed. But each had different views of how to go about it. In serving their God they had a different set of priorities. Fortunately the New World was a big land. And America provided a lot of elbow room for people of different persuasions to go about their business. It also offered many new opportunities. And so when they came to America the Pilgrims and Puritans began to flow together and complement one another.

FOREFATHERS" SIGNED A DOCUMENT. THIS WAS THE COVENANT KNOWN

AS THE 'MAYFLOWER COMPACT'. THEY WERE BINDING THEMSELVES

TOGETHER AND BEFORE GOD AS 'ONE BODY POLITICK'. THIS BECAME

A FOUNDATIONAL PRINCIPLE FOR ESTABLISHING THE AMERICAN NATION. -http://endtimepilgrim.org/puritans11.htm

Happy Thanksgiving!

Do you know that the Pilgrims and the Puritans wanted to make the USA a Christian Nation?
nice rant, but you never see the united states government accepting anything in the "mayflower compact"



only the constitution, which deliberately severes the ties between religion and state affairs....



nice try though



have a great thanksgiving weekend...
Reply:What is the normal age of a pilgrim???

Answer:- Pilgrimage.

Thanks for the site. Happy Thanksgiving.
Reply:Yeah, and did you know they did not want to form the USA. The USA was formed a long time after the Pilgrims came over. Lots of different thinking was happening when the United States were formed. The people forming it felt that the government should be there to serve the people and that all people have rights. One of those rights is freedom of religion. A government that is based on religion cannot properly serve the people. A religious neutral government will serve the people much better than one that is promoting a religion.



The Bill of Rights overrides any document that the pilgrims came up with when they landed.
Reply:"And America provided a lot of elbow room for people of different persuasions to go about their business"



Do you have ANY idea how f'ing ironic it is, that of ALL people.....YOU post something that contains this phrase??????



The rest of you desert worshipping thumpers take note.
Reply:Yes, and the first felons ever to be put to death in this Nation under God were a whole bunch of witches an warlocks!
Reply:They didn't. They had ideals for their own societies, but the idea of a "United States", of any sort of religious practice, was a hundred years in the future.
Reply:Yes , I did . So what ?
Reply:Not all pilgrims were puritans.. only about half were puritans the other half - like John Alden and Miles Standish - were Anglicans.



If they had truly wanted a christian nation, they would not have enacted laws against the Roman Catholics and the Quakers all of whom believed in the same deity as they did. The puritans were only interested in their own brand of intolerance.



And if they were such charitable christians, they wouldn't have stabbed the Native Americans in the back.. the same ones who helped them survive that first hard winter. If it hadn't been for the charity of the Native Americans none of the pilgrims would have made it and they obviously weren't thankful for that...
Reply:The USA didn't exist yet when the pilgrims arrived. If it had, they never would have received green cards.
Reply:There were later efforts to declare the U.S. "A Christian Nation."



In 1863, thinking that the Civil War was God's punishment for not including him explicitly by name in the Constitution, a coalition of 11 Protestant denominations worked to amend the Constitution in order to rectify that. The next year, there was another attempt, this time by the National Reform Association. It also failed, but one member of that association was John Pollack, who played a key role in getting "In God We Trust put on the 2-cent coin in 1864.



There were further attempts in Congress in 1874, 1896, and 1910, but thank the Gods, none of them passed. There have been more attempts in the 1940s, the 1950s, 1962, and 1998, but none of those have made it to a congressional vote.
Reply:But lets not forget about all the Native American people that these good 'ol God fearing Christians killed. But hey, as long as the Pilgrams %26amp; Puritans could worship freely, that's all that mattered Huh?
Reply:Yes that's true Crimmson the American Constitution was founded on the basic principles of the Bible.
Reply:Yes I knew that and that's why most of our laws are based on the ten commandments.

Allot of what we have in America is based on the Torah and the Holy Bible that's why we're so blessed.

Think about it compared to so called 3rd world Countries which have been around for thousands of years America is only a few hundred years old and we are much more civilized and organized than they are and why do you think that is?

It's because we are blessed by God who loves us and takes really good care of us because we honor and worship Him.
Reply:And yet OUR forefathers refer to neither a set religion or specific god, but rather to a "god of nature."
Reply:Pilgrims and Puritans are the same people. BTW, you were supposed to ask a real question

not a question which you answer for yourself for everyone to see
Reply:Ok then explain to me the Treaty of Tripoli and why the word "god" isn't mentioned ONCE in the Constitution OR the Bill of Rights. Why do you people have selective intelligence?
Reply:Yes, I do know that. When people talk about separation of church and state, the original intent was not to have a religious system rule over them as the Pope and Catholicism did, and later, the Church of England or Anglican church. They certainly didn't want religion totally removed from society as some people think today!
Reply:Actually, even as recently as 1776, there were those who wanted to found a Theocracy in America rather than a Democratic-Republic. (Because Democracy and Republic were created by Pagan people)
Reply:Happy Thanksgiving to you and to all USA Americans and to everyone else too!



The Puritans and Separatists did not go over to the New World for the religious freedom for all ,one of the principles the US Constitution came to stand for.;



they wanted "a City on A Hill" where the ideals of Calvinism would be mandated as law for all. Dissenters,even Calvinist ones, were sent quickly out of Massachusetts, if they were lucky ,and if they were "returned ' or missionary Quakers they, like Mary Dyer and others, would be executed. The Catholic Mass was forbidden under penalty of death.



The Spanish Inquisition was not the only one or always the worst to deal with. since Protestants had plenty of their own.



Catholic-founded Maryland was established with tolerance for all Christians and later Rhode Island ( started by a Calvinist refugee from Puritan MA) and Penn went furtherin religious freedom . The Catholics lost their freedom to practice in Maryland by the time of the English Civil War.



IMHPO ,I would prefer to be accused of witchcraft before the Spanish or Papal Inquisitions(which were different for the Pope had little say over the Spanish one) than before any court in Protestant Puritan Massachusetts.



I am sure that the Native American Indians of New England ,including the "Praying Indian" Christians,did not see the Puritan Commenwealth among them as an unmixed blessing by the end of King Phillip's War.



May we all learn the lesson of gratitude to God and to and for all the people(including those who differ from us) around us who share this earth.
Reply:So the slaughtering of natives for their god is justifiable? They really couldn't let them be on their land they had to take it by force, enslave them, pillage their villages, and take their natural resources. Nice, really nice.



Also the Treaty of Peace and Friendship, signed at Tripoli November 4, 1796 (3 Ramada I, A. H. 1211), and at Algiers January 3, 1797 (4 Rajab, A. H. 1211). Original in Arabic. Submitted to the Senate May 29, 1797. (Message of May 26, 1797.) Resolution of advice and consent June 7, 1797. Ratified by the United States June 10, 1797. As to the ratification generally, see the notes. Proclaimed Jane 10, 1797.
Reply:yes aren't they one and the same? to you too dear, and everyone.